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	<title>Comments on: Gran Fiesta Tour continues a revival at Epcot</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/07/gran-fiesta-tour-continues-a-revival-at-epcot/#comment-1599</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, KingCrab.  Persoanlly, I never like science.  Did that make me a lousy kid?  I liked history and english.  Science...boring!!  Therefore, hearing about the wonderful ways Exxon is making our petroleum lives better was awful...annoying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, KingCrab.  Persoanlly, I never like science.  Did that make me a lousy kid?  I liked history and english.  Science&#8230;boring!!  Therefore, hearing about the wonderful ways Exxon is making our petroleum lives better was awful&#8230;annoying</p>
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		<title>By: KINGCRAB</title>
		<link>http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/07/gran-fiesta-tour-continues-a-revival-at-epcot/#comment-1598</link>
		<dc:creator>KINGCRAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Anonymous, not only could you be any more innacurate with your above comment, but you were EXTREMELY mean-spirited and discriminatory with the unnecessary remarks that you made, especially the final sentence regarding "needing better kids". Any kids or parents that may have read that would've VERY offended by that.

We all have to get used to change and learn to embrace such changes. And the character-themed attractions at Epcot are excellent and DO keep with the theme of the park. The 'toons are great and they are here to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Anonymous, not only could you be any more innacurate with your above comment, but you were EXTREMELY mean-spirited and discriminatory with the unnecessary remarks that you made, especially the final sentence regarding &#8220;needing better kids&#8221;. Any kids or parents that may have read that would&#8217;ve VERY offended by that.</p>
<p>We all have to get used to change and learn to embrace such changes. And the character-themed attractions at Epcot are excellent and DO keep with the theme of the park. The &#8216;toons are great and they are here to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: KINGCRAB</title>
		<link>http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/07/gran-fiesta-tour-continues-a-revival-at-epcot/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>KINGCRAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, please delete the above uncalled-for comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, please delete the above uncalled-for comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank goodness I was alive to experience EPCOT Center firsthand before the executives started to make it suck.

Whenever my friends ask me what EPCOT Center used to be like, I usually draw this comparison:

There are attractions in this country that are historical villages. When you walk through the gate, you were transported into a village in the 1840's, or 1600's.

EPCOT Center was just the opposite. When you walked through the gate, you felt as though you were in the 22nd century. When I was a kid, I wanted to LIVE at EPCOT Center. I never found any of it dull for a moment. I didn't need Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Donald, Nemo, Woody, Kim Possible, Captain Sparrow or any other stupid character to keep my interest.

Now, Epcot is just another theme park. They've stripped it of it's soul. One of my friends went there not too long ago &#38; he nearly cried at all the changes. He originally was going to stay there for four days. He only stayed for one. He told me to save my money &#38; just look at all the old pictures I took during earlier visits.

If "Finding Nemo" turns your screw when the lights are out &#38; the doors are closed, good for you. I watched the movie. I like the movie. I even bought the DVD.

I don't want Finding Nemo in my Living Seas. Kim Possible belongs on the TV screen, not in my Journeys Into Imagination. Donald &#38; his two feathered friends can get the heck out of the Mexico Pavilion.

If your kids are bored with science, then you don't need to Pixar-ize EPCOT, you just need better kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness I was alive to experience EPCOT Center firsthand before the executives started to make it suck.</p>
<p>Whenever my friends ask me what EPCOT Center used to be like, I usually draw this comparison:</p>
<p>There are attractions in this country that are historical villages. When you walk through the gate, you were transported into a village in the 1840&#8217;s, or 1600&#8217;s.</p>
<p>EPCOT Center was just the opposite. When you walked through the gate, you felt as though you were in the 22nd century. When I was a kid, I wanted to LIVE at EPCOT Center. I never found any of it dull for a moment. I didn&#8217;t need Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Donald, Nemo, Woody, Kim Possible, Captain Sparrow or any other stupid character to keep my interest.</p>
<p>Now, Epcot is just another theme park. They&#8217;ve stripped it of it&#8217;s soul. One of my friends went there not too long ago &amp; he nearly cried at all the changes. He originally was going to stay there for four days. He only stayed for one. He told me to save my money &amp; just look at all the old pictures I took during earlier visits.</p>
<p>If &#8220;Finding Nemo&#8221; turns your screw when the lights are out &amp; the doors are closed, good for you. I watched the movie. I like the movie. I even bought the DVD.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want Finding Nemo in my Living Seas. Kim Possible belongs on the TV screen, not in my Journeys Into Imagination. Donald &amp; his two feathered friends can get the heck out of the Mexico Pavilion.</p>
<p>If your kids are bored with science, then you don&#8217;t need to Pixar-ize EPCOT, you just need better kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Raidermatt</title>
		<link>http://www.mouseextra.com/2007/06/07/gran-fiesta-tour-continues-a-revival-at-epcot/#comment-1437</link>
		<dc:creator>Raidermatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, MK is the biggest draw, but I think Epcot went a long way towards expanding the base.  A lot of families aren't of a single mind when it comes to Disney.  Mom might be into it, but Dad might think it's kid's stuff.  When you provide some family options that aren't "cartoonish", you can make Dad a little more willing to come back sooner.

I think by making Epcot more like MK, they aren't providing that incentive for the less "pixie-dusted" family members.  After all, as you said, the people who like the MK-type experience are already hooked.  Does a Nemo Living Seas really make them more likely to visit?

For comparison's sake, it would be nice if we could see some recent plans/concepts that Imagineers drew up that weren't Nemo-ized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, MK is the biggest draw, but I think Epcot went a long way towards expanding the base.  A lot of families aren&#8217;t of a single mind when it comes to Disney.  Mom might be into it, but Dad might think it&#8217;s kid&#8217;s stuff.  When you provide some family options that aren&#8217;t &#8220;cartoonish&#8221;, you can make Dad a little more willing to come back sooner.</p>
<p>I think by making Epcot more like MK, they aren&#8217;t providing that incentive for the less &#8220;pixie-dusted&#8221; family members.  After all, as you said, the people who like the MK-type experience are already hooked.  Does a Nemo Living Seas really make them more likely to visit?</p>
<p>For comparison&#8217;s sake, it would be nice if we could see some recent plans/concepts that Imagineers drew up that weren&#8217;t Nemo-ized.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will only disagree with you on one point Matt, and that is that the Magic Kingdom isn't everyone's cup of tea. Lets face it, when people think of Disney or WDW then think the Magic Kingdom. When people plop down several grand for a vaca to WDW its with the Magic Kingdom in mind. Those who wouldn't like it, probably wouldn't give WDW much of a thought anyway.

I like the Nemo-ized Living Seas. Turtle Talk is great. But I would add more hands-on scientific exhibits such as those at the pavillon in the old days mixed in with the new ride and Turtle Talk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will only disagree with you on one point Matt, and that is that the Magic Kingdom isn&#8217;t everyone&#8217;s cup of tea. Lets face it, when people think of Disney or WDW then think the Magic Kingdom. When people plop down several grand for a vaca to WDW its with the Magic Kingdom in mind. Those who wouldn&#8217;t like it, probably wouldn&#8217;t give WDW much of a thought anyway.</p>
<p>I like the Nemo-ized Living Seas. Turtle Talk is great. But I would add more hands-on scientific exhibits such as those at the pavillon in the old days mixed in with the new ride and Turtle Talk</p>
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